I just started buying a thing...

"Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle" (1500sand535) 05/10/2016 at 14:02 • Filed to: None

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Edit: Im going to send in a deposit for them to hold the car until next week when I get back from work.

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So, I’ve been eyeing up a Ralliart Sportback up in Seattle for the last month, and noticed they dropped the price into a realm I was willing to pay. Called my credit union, called the dealership, and We may be 10 days away from a new car if everything irons itself out.

As some of you may recall I am growing weary of my BMWs little quirks but my wife had encouraged me to stick with it and we had talked about replacing our boat of a ford freestyle with something a little newer and smaller quite a bit lately.

So if all goes to plan, in with the new:

Out with the old:

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle 05/10/2016 at 14:05

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Those lancers are attractive machines.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle 05/10/2016 at 14:29

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If only they made these into full blown Evo’s; always liked these things

TFen > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle 05/10/2016 at 14:30

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While working at a car dealership, I had one just like that for about a week and another identical blue one for about another week.

They are properly quick cars and the hatch is a nice touch, although the overall cargo room may still leave something to be desired.

The first DCT I ever drove was the orange one. It was a fun week. I remember telling people “it’s basically an EVO” lol. Called them the rally wagons.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle 05/10/2016 at 14:35

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I’ve always had a weird liking for the Freestyle/Taurus X

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 05/10/2016 at 14:42

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Did you fall on your head recently? Those things look terible

Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 05/10/2016 at 14:49

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If we had a Taurus X, it may have stuck around for a while longer. They are a bit quicker, just a little better looking and there is no CVT groaaaannnnnnn.

When we bought it my wife and I just wanted something with lots of space as we were hauling bikes and camping gear every other weekend. And for that purpose it was awesome not having to deal with a roof or trunk rack, just take off the front wheels and slide the bikes in the back. You can sleep in the damn thing comfortably too.

Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 05/10/2016 at 14:50

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In his defense the Taurus X in darker colors is a decent looking vehicle. Our green one, not so much.

Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 05/10/2016 at 14:54

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I really like the overall look of the car, the shark nose looks really mean.

The hatch on the Sportback leaves a little to be desired but all in all its a good looking car.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 05/10/2016 at 14:57

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Taurus X was better because you didn’t have to deal with a CVT and you got the bigger 3.5L.

I’m awfully surprised at your response giving AWD Wagon with 263 hp:

PorkchoPlissken > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle 05/10/2016 at 15:05

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I like the lancer sportback a lot, and don’t see many of them. Also, I owned a base Lancer for about 7 years, and it was pretty bullet proof.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 05/10/2016 at 15:05

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Yea it ticks all the right boxes on paper, I just don’t like the design. It looks stuck between a wagon and a CUV and just doesn’t look right. If I’m going to get a wagon from Ford I’m getting this with the 3.5L ecoboost engine. I don’t even have a family yet and I really want one of these

Spaceball-Two > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle 05/10/2016 at 15:27

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A gentleman in my office building has one. Also orange and in Seattle and he loves it. Says the mpg is pretty good.

Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 05/10/2016 at 15:34

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The flex has way more style but you pay for it compared to the Taurus X, and even though their dimensions are the same more or less, it looks way bigger. I wonder if it feels that way in the drivers seat.

If the Taurus X didn’t have third row seating then the roof line could have been a little sleeker. The little hump at the back to add headroom is what always drove me nuts about the looks of it.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle 05/10/2016 at 15:41

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The Flex has 3rd row seats as well though

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 05/10/2016 at 15:42

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Well I like the Flex, I actually like the MKT even more, so obviously we’re not going to match up on wagon styling...

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 05/10/2016 at 15:46

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Haha...man you got weird taste, whatever floats your boat i guess. All I can think of when I see those older Lincoln grills is whale baleen

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 05/10/2016 at 15:48

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Oh you’re just at the top of the iceberg here man.

I own 2 Mercury’s - 2007 Milan and 1968 Montego MX

I’m a huge Mercury fan and I love Lincolns too.

Why you gotta be so anti-whale?

AWD 365 hp wagon that’s not completely slab sided like the Flex? Sign me up. Man the inside of an MKT is a nice place to be.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 05/10/2016 at 15:53

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Not saying I wouldn’t take an MKT, just that I’d chose a Flex over it. I like boxes, as an engineer I appreciate their efficiency. Even so, I can’t hate too much on anything with 365HP.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 05/10/2016 at 15:56

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Even better is going to be this stealthy bastard with 400 hp 400 torque in the little MKZ with AWD. Check out Lincoln quietly walking up with a big stick.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 05/10/2016 at 15:58

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Now that I would take in a heartbeat.

Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle > TFen 05/10/2016 at 16:38

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It's just like an EVO, that's the delusion I'll keep telling myself as well.

gawdzillla > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle 05/10/2016 at 17:24

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how much is that cheaper than a ... Focus ST ?

i dont know if i can get myself in a mitsu knowing the deep $hit they are in

Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle > gawdzillla 05/10/2016 at 18:19

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They are asking $14k for a 2010 with 68k miles. KBB is 12-14k for that kind of mileage so I’ll get a them down a little. It retailed for about $4k more than the ST when both were new, in part because of the AWD and the getrag DCT.

I'd imagine when STs get to that kind of age, they'll be comparable in price. Better name recognition than the Ralliart, but lower original price and less features.

Engine aside, lots of the parts on this model are shared with lower end ralliarts so availability of most stuff shouldn’t be bad. If the transmission craps the bed(which I haven’t seen too many reports of except for really hard use) I’ll shed some tears but otherwise I don’t think maintenance will be too daunting.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle 05/11/2016 at 07:00

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I am actually a fan of the Lancer wagons, but they are VERY uncommon here. I’ve maybe seen....like....2?

Good luck! :)